at skeptical face. >> sure, mitt romney had a fantastic night in the debate last week. he got a bounce out of. but as richard and i were talking about during the break that bounce is disappearing. i mean as stephanie cutter said in the clip that you showed the race is back to where it was before the debate, if not before the conventions. this has been and will continue to be until election day a very close race. and what karl rove is doing there is trying to -- phil i'm sure you'll correct me -- is to rah rah the troops on the republican say saying mitt romney's back and he'll take this as a result of one 90-minute debate after weeks, if not months, of a really horrible campaign. >> i'm sorry, guys i think you're denying reality here. i tweeted the night of the debate that this changed the arc of the election and i agree completely. >> you tweeted that too. >> i tweeted that in the middle of two-thirds of the debate and i believe it. and we've seen it. we've seen it in a couple of key things. this is underreported. it guaranteed the financial success sof tof the romney camp. mit

repetitive. governor romney had a good flight. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> well, it's not the first time i've had a bad night, but i think what's important is that the fundamentals of what this race is about haven't changed. >> is it possible you handed him the election that night? >> no. >> you're going to win? >> yes. >> don't expect joe biden to make the same mistake. the campaign says the veep will come out forcefully against the romney/ryan record and address the quote dishonesties pedalled last week. offering advice for number two the president said -- >> tomorrow night? >> well, i -- you know, i think joe needs to be joe. >> for what it's worth, the president is probably hoping that joe isn't the same joe who occasionally suffers from bouts of acute honesty on a variety of topics like gay marriage. >> he got out a little bit over his skis, but out of generosity, spirit. >> joining us now from chicago, national press secretary for the obama campaign, ben "the thunder" labolt. >> new nickname every time. thanks for having me. >> thunder bolt or thunder. there's not that much se

. >> last night at a fund-raiser in san francisco, president obama hammered governor romney on his shape shifting. >> a few nights ago, suddenly a guy pretending to be mitt romney stood on a stage next to me and said he's changing his plan. he's just going to pretend it doesn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? what was being presented wasn't leadership. that's salesmanship. >> when the storm clouds clear, which romney will voters remember? the bone dry severe conservative or the misty massachusetts moderate? the paradox of the mittens, a multi volume extravaganza continues. john heilemann, what do we make, what do you specifically make, of this politico inside dope that says ann and tagg romney have been instrumental in this recalibrated mitt romney? >> i never want to take exception that anybody mike allen and jim vandehei write but maybe there's a straining to find a more biz zanty explanation than is necessarily the case. to question that ann romney was unhawpe with what was happening to her husband as any reasonable wife would be, given the way he was being portrayed and allowing peo